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Previous Entry Pimply chin help, please? Feb. 1st, 2013 @ 02:29 pm
Hi, guys. I've never posted in the community before, so I hope I'm not breaking any rules.

I haven't transferred my pics to the computer yet, so I can't give you guys a photo, alas.

Our girl "Bellatrix" came from Smokin' Lads Kennel in Phoenix.  (She's Smokin' Lads Warrior Queen as registered.)  She's, quite frankly, a magnificent dog.  She's got one of the most beautiful heads I've ever seen on an OEM, and God himself could not ask for a dog with a better temperament than she does.  She's just one of those dogs who are just naturally *good*.  We don't have children, and while we do realize she's a dog, she is as dear to us as we can imagine a child could be.

After about 9 months, she had an issue with urinary tract infections, we got her the plastic surgery she needed so her vulva wasn't constantly being infected. She's very big for a bitch -- 33" at the shoulder and 220 lbs -- though she needs to lose 10, and I understand that the vulva was so large that it folded a bit and trapped the bacteria there. Recently, she somehow cut herself and got 3 different infections, including MRSA, on the inside of her right foreleg.  Two wounds, both open to the muscle.  Horrible.  Fortunately, between our wonderful vet (for anyone in Tucson,I highly recommend Ina Road Animal Hospital.  They open at 7 am, close at 1 am, 365 days a year. Virtually all the techs there own Giants, mainly types of mastiffs, and several of the vets do as well --they really understand Giants) and good nursing on our part, she's completely healed.

During these events, naturally she's been on antibiotics.  Her lower jaw to the hairy part of her throat is simply covered with big pink pimples (that occasionally bleed), but when she's on the antibiotics, her skin is perfect.  We very briefly discussed it with the vet who did the plastic surgery (Veterinary Specialist Hospital in Tucson -- they've got specialists for anything your mastiff would need) on her.  She thought most of the skin problems were because she's almost always wet.

For a few weeks now, when she comes away from the water bucket, we rub her chin and chest dry, but I can't spend my whole day drying her jaw off from her drool --- and she's a very drooly girl.

I know we could put her back on antibiotics and get rid of the pimples, but neither my husband nor I want to have her on antibiotics for the rest of her life --she just turned 3. 

I'm desperate enough to try and design some sort of high bib I could tie it around her neck and so not have to jump up every time she drinks.  But that wouldn't take care of the muzzle bottom constantly being wet because of her saliva.

Does anyone have any suggestions, particularly for the under muzzle problem? She's such a beautiful dog, and while most people don't see them, I do, and it makes me feel as if I'm not taking care of my dog, and that's kind of a big thing to me.

Thanks in advance for any help anyone can give me.
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Date:February 2nd, 2013 01:43 pm (UTC)
We have a Dogue De Bordeaux with a similar history--he (with help of cats) got rancid turkey a year ago and ended up with a blood infection localized to his elbow joint. (4 days in ICU....eek!)
And we've noticed that he just seems prone to infection/inflamation--he is frequently broken out too...or very red in the nose/mouth/eyes. We hadn't made the wet connection--but he spends a lot of time in a water trough.
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Date:May 28th, 2013 11:11 pm (UTC)
2littlewings, I'm so sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I have some health issues, and they've been kicking my butt since before the year started.

I'm so glad that your boy got better from his ICU experience! We love our fur friends.

We'd been doing pretty well there, and then I noticed Bellatrix was limping, and $3000 or so later, here's our situation:

Has every form of staph we know affects dogs.


Is allergic to at least 16 things that exist specific to this ecosystem, and we can't consider moving because my husband works for the City, and my in-laws, while spry and smart, are in their early 80s, and we're sure eventually they'll need help, and we need to be there for them..

So here's how it went in the short form (yes, this is the short form, sorry).

At first it looked very similar to the first go-round, but she soon developed huge pustules not just on her face and under her jaw, but between her toes. The poor girl could barely stand it when she had to go out, and lost weight for a bit because I didn't understand it hurt too much for her to go to her bowls, which are about six steps for her. I then started bringing her food and water to her, and while she's still losing (and she does need to lose; I wish she didn't have to be sick for it to happen), it's much more slowly.

We (well, mainly my husband because I kept breaking into tears) had to squeeze the pustules, particularly the toe ones, and clean them up, as well as administering other drugs for this and other problems she was having. Again,several of the ones on her face were very deep and very severe.

She's definitely healing, and while the vet of course deserves the lion's share of the praise for that, I think we do too. I am still concerned about her muzzle being too wet, and so I've developed some silly bib and such solutions that help us. One that helped her so much is a good solid bath with a shampoo designed to get down to the dander and get it all out. A simple thing, but there it is. We used a Nature's Miracle product. She sheds so much less (we get a chihuahua out of her every single brushing in our summer, but not this year! She obviously felt better immediately

It might be that your boy is suffering from allergens as well. I don't remember exactly how much the test cost, and it'll vary by area, but maybe your vet can talk with you about the possibility of allergens affecting your dear Bordeaux.

A friend gave us a product to try and help, and we think it did. It's made for people, but it's fine on dogs. It's called Qore24, and it's an antimicrobial spray that dries quickly (a few seconds); if you rub your hands together, it feels like silk. The stuff protects what its sprayed upon for 24 hours. We sprayed it between her toes -- a hard area to get too, especially with the pustules and inflammation -- and man, the wounds started healing at an amazing rate. And we're not buying any other hand/wound sanitizer, because we love it on ourselves, and we've seen it work on her. Maybe it can help your boy?

If you can afford it, I'd look at both an allergen test, and a culture for his breakouts. I knew medical for giants was horrifically expensive (mainly anesthesia costs) I think we've spent over $4k on medical for her, and it would have been so much cheaper if we'd gotten these tests from the beginning. We're not poor, but we're on a financial edge, and if I could have gotten her allergy shots and other treatment from the beginning, I think we'd have saved 50% of that.

I hope your boy feels better by now; please let me know how he's doing.
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